Fall Out Boy: Sugar, We're Goin Down Meaning
Song Released: 2005
Sugar, We're Goin Down Lyrics
I've been dying to tell you anything you want to hear
Cause that's just who I am this week
Lie in the grass, next to the mausoleum
I'm just a notch in your bedpost
But you're just a line in a song
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"OBVIOUSLY none of you love fall out boy as much as you say you do because any TRUE fan would know EXACTLY what they're talking about and what they mean. So I guess because I'm the ONLY one who's a true fan, I'll tell you what it all means.
Whis guy is TOTALLY messing with you and wanting you to get confused... but seriously... when he sings "we're going down, down" what he REALLY is saying is:
"We're going UP UP MY NOSE!" I mean, SERIOUSLY! LOOK AT HIS NOSTRILS! THEY'RE THUMBSIZED! THIS GUY DEFINITELY HAS A PROBLEM W/ NOSE PICKING!
And then, this whole "loaded god complex, cock it and pull it" he is SUCH a chicken slayer! He cuts off their heads!!! Hence the word, COCK! Then once he realizes that those chickens aren't going "down, down" that easy, he pulls out their tailfeathers ( ....and pull it) it's all a metaphor of how he used to be an all time champion boxer whose name was "the Almighty" (ahem... god complex anyone?) but had a horrible match w/ a guy whose fighter name was "Chicken X"... and he lost in round one! hence "we're going down, down in an EARLIER ROUND!" he thought he was going to beat this guy, but then got his butt kicked, so in return, plagued his revenge on his enemies alias! (a chicken)!
Okay, all of you are WRONG about "drop a heart..." it is SO "TRABAJAR!" LISTEN TO IT! he's singing.. WORK! IN SPANISH!
And "we're always sleeping in, and sleeping for the wrong team" that's all about how he goes to bed too late and sleeps in all the time because he hasn't invested in a good alarm clock, AND he keeps rooting for the wrong team! (i.e. Chicken X) and when it comes to rooting for the right team, he's always sleeping! Again, no alarm clock!
"I'll be your number one with a bullet" is him trying to boost his ego about his horrible loss to Chicken X, so basically he's trying to talk smack, saying that the NEXT round, he'll be swinging so fast that his fists will be like bullets and he'll win! Number 1!
So honestly guys, I know that you think life is about love and jealousy and relationships and all greasy things like that, but seriously... It's not. It's about boxing! Simply put. ALL of it. life is just one big boxing match!
And that's the rest of the story..."
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Wow. I don't know what you were on when you wrote that xxmisspiggyxx, but you were definitely VERY high on something, seriously.
On a better note, that post made me laugh so hard that I almost shit myself. -
Yeah, jealousy.
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Ok, I think this song is about how the guy loves a girl a lot, but she's with some other guy (I'm watching you two from the closet wishing to be the friction in your jeans) and I'm probably wrong, but I think he's sad that she doesn't feel the same, and is thinking of killing himself (a loaded god complex cock it and pull) like, cock the gun, pull the trigger. (take aim at myself take back what you said). I could just be negative, but it sounds like a son about suicide.
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OK, I think this song is about how the guy loves a girl a lot, but she's with some other guy (I'm watching you two from the closet wishing to be the friction in your jeans) and I'm probably wrong, but I think he's sad that she doesn't feel the same, and is thinking of killing himself (a loaded god complex cock it and pull) like, cock the gun, pull the trigger. (take aim at myself take back what you said). I could just be negative, but it sounds like a son about suicide.
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Oh my! I never knew this song had so many meanings. I came here thinking I knew what this song meant but other people have so many different interpretations. Keep em coming. I love this site!
I think I have even more respect for FOB now. -
Clearly none among you has taken "Introduction to Metaphysics" and as such I have a hard time trusting your lyrical exegesis. It is clear that the young chaps in Fall Out Boy (henceforth referred to as FOB) are heavily indebted to the philosophical thought of Karl Marx. While I am disinclined to say that they are actual communists, they clearly have communitarian leanings.
Take for example the following song verse: "We're going down (down) in an earlier round." This is clearly a reference to Marx's view on "Utopian Socialists" which he castigates harshly. Take for example this quote from "The Communist Manifesto"; "The founders of these systems see, indeed, the class antagonisms, as well as the action of the decomposing elements in the prevailing form of society. But the proletariat, as yet in its infacy, offers to them the spectacle of a class without any historical initiative or any independent political movement." The fact that they are going "down" refers to the "decomposing elements in the prevailing form of society".
There has also been much debate regarding the "loaded God complex." People who think it is loaded gun should be shot in the face. It is indubitably loaded GOD. This is another clear referenc to Marx. He tells us that religion is the opiate of the masses. Thus... loaded God complex.
I will end my interpretation with a quote from the great Argetinian moral philosopher, Alfonso Gomez-Lobo. I am sure you're all to ignorant to have read him, but I highly recommend his book "Morality and the Human Goods." He writes "The foregoing norms constitute a catalog of general injuctions that should be accepted by anyone who accepts the lists of basic goods and prudential guidelines, especially those of impartial respect and care and, ultimately, the first principle of paractical rationality." He is clearly operating in the Marxist tradition. The quote is too applicable to the song to merit further discussion, the connection is obvious. Especially when you consider the following lyrics: "I'm just a notch in your bedpost, but you're just a line in a song." They must have read his book immediately prior to composing this song.
I hope you half-wits and dullards are capable of wrapping your puerile little minds around the deep philosophical and metaphysical positions inherent in this work. Anyone who disagrees with me is not only a penis, but also a counter-revolutionary bourgeois swine. -
The music video tells the story of a guy who is hated by everyone because of his difference, but then he finds someone who loves him for who he is and the girls dad hates the boy just like evry one else. He comes to find out the dad is just like the boy at the end of the video you can tell that the dad accepts him.
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An enonomous person explained this song more fully and better than anyone else, but I'd like to offer my own two cents. In my opinion, I think this song is basically an expression of how love can drive a person both metaphorically and psycologically insane.
The girl in the song is obviously a slut, who sees him as nothing more than a "notch on her bedpost." Unfortunately the boy falls in love with her, and, despit claiming that she is "just a word in a song", stalks her ("watching you from the closit/wishing to be the friction in your jeans")with the intent of trying to make her want him as a boyfriend. This is most evident in the chorus: "I'll be your #1 with a bullet/I've got a loaded God complex, wanna cock it and pull it?". This song is a great depiction of someone descending into madness. -
I thoguht it was about a guy morally confused with his love for a girl with the use of "cock it and pull it". I thought he meant, I'm going to kill myself if I don't get this girl. I really don't understand the video at all with the dear legs on that man at the end, it's creepy anywho, let's be honest here thier new song clearly is better. If anyone can Interpret the video please post, or "Answer's on a postcard please". I think fall out boy are good though half and half, although thier are a little depression in thier songs. Which people would call 'emo' music.
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Here's a straightfoward interpretation of the story in the song, which is undeniably a relationship. Certain other parts can be metaphors for other things, but a good part of the song is about a girl so I'll continue from there.
"Am I more than you bargained for yet
I've been dying to tell you anything you want to hear
Cause that's just who I am this week"
He is in a relationship where he is the guy the girl is cheating on her boyfriend with, wanting to know if the cheating is all that she hoped for and will say whatever she wants to hear to keep the relationship going because he isn't the best person.
"Lie in the grass, next to the mausoleum
I'm just a notch in your bedpost
But you're just a line in a song
(A notch in your bedpost, but you're just a line in a song)"
The grass bit is just a place where they go so that they don't get caught, who's going to check a cemetery for that sort of thing? They next two lines are just them saying there is still no feelings other than sexual ones between the two, its mutual.
"Drop a heart, break a name
We're always sleeping in, and sleeping for the wrong team"
The reversing of drop a name break a heart means they're very close to getting caught. The sleeping in is them getting careless, and the sleeping for the wrong team is sleeping with the wrong person, ie not her boyfriend.
"We're going down, down in an earlier round
And Sugar, we're going down swinging"
We were doomed from the start, but we're not going to let that stop us.
"I'll be your number one with a bullet"
A music metaphor that is showing his belief that he'll be the one she wants increasingly.
"A loaded God complex, cock it and pull it"
God complex meaning he feels invincible, the cock it and pull it is him asking them to test his feeling of invincibility. The line just means he doesn't think he can get caught and dares someone to try and disprove him.
"Is this more than you bargained for yet"
Has she gotten in over her head with the cheating yet?
"Oh don't mind me I'm watching you two from the closet
Wishing to be the friction in your jeans
Isn't it messed up how I'm just dying to be him
I'm just a notch in your bedpost
But you're just a line in a song
(Notch in your bedpost, but you're just a line in a song)"
He had to hide in the closet when the boyfriend showed up while he was busy with the girl. He's wishing he was the one hugging the girl and grinding against her, not jealous of the relationship, jealous that he isn't the one being intimate with her. Then reaffirming how the relationship is just sexual. The part about "Isn't it messed up" is not desire for a real relationship he's saying his lust is irrationally strong.
The last part where he's saying "Take aim at myself" and "Take back what you said" are about being caught finally. Taking aim at myself is he expects what's coming to him. Take back what you said is his last hope that the girl will keep lying to cover up the relationship. -
I think it could have two interpretations. It sounds like in the beginning the, song is talking about the band and the relationship with their fans. " Am I more than you bargained for yet? I've been dying to tell you anything you want to hear cause that's just who I am this week." That's the first one.
The second one I think is talking about a relationship. "Am I more than you bargained for yet?" He's asking if this relationship was a mistake and if she wants out. " I've been dying to tell you anything you want to hear." He's saying he's trying to say things to make her stay or to please her. "cause that's just who I am this week" he changes himself to her liking.
"Lie in the grass next to the masoleum" He's saying that he wants to be with her so bad it's "killing" him.
"I'm just a notch in your bedpost but your just a line in a song" Thay are both using each other. He's using her for sex and she's doing the same to him.
"Drop a heart and break a name." means a heart was broken because someone eles' name was "dropped"
"we're always sleeping in and we're sleeping for the wrong team" I guess this is saying that everyone diapproves of their relationship and they're trying to prove everyone wrong. It obviously isn't working.
"Wer're going down, down in an earlier round
And sugar we're going down swinging
I'll be your number one with a bullet
A loaded god complex cock it and pull it"
This means that the relationship is foing down. He wants to to be her best boyfriend- number one with a bullet. A god complex is I thnk he means she think she's better or to good for him ( a loaded god complex means you think you're better than god) cock it and pull it means she's just shooting him down with insults.
"Is this more than you bargained for yet?" again referring to the relationship being maybe a mistake. Yet thay aren't really in a relationship they're just having sex and he's falling for her even thuogh they both are in relationships with other people he wants her and wants there to be more between them than just sex.
" Oh! don't mind me" He realizes that they aren't really a couple." I'm watching you two from the closet" alomst like he's having his heart broken and watching her move on and be with someone eles is to hurtful. " wishing to be the friction in your jeans" he means he wants her to stop giving it up to the other guy and ants her to start giving it up to him if she's gonna give it up at all. " Isn't it messed up how I'm just dying to be him" how badly he wants to be the guy she wants to be with.
basically this is about a boy and a girl both seeing each other while in relationships with other people. The boy fall for the gir but he girl wants out. He's sad to see her move on and wants to be the guy she's with while she's shooting himdown for a relationship she cheats on the boyfriend with the boy for sex and that's it she just wants him for sex while he wants her for more than that. They are both hurting each other and it "kills" him to break up with her because he tries so hard to be everything she wants him to be "a loaded god complex cock it and pull it." -
A few points I want to cover:
It really is a god complex, not an Oedipus complex, not a gun complex, a god complex. Here's a definition (taken from Wikipedia):
A god complex is a colloquial term used to portray a perceived character flaw as if it were a 'psychological complex'. The person who is said to have a 'god complex' does not believe he is God, but is said to act so arrogantly that he might as well believe he is a god or appointed to act by a god. Some people also call it a Messianic complex.
Some believe that 'god complexes' are "particularly common in arrogant, highly educated, worldly, or powerful people."
"A loaded god complex, cock it and pull it."
His ego was high, but after she cheated, he doesn't feel like he's adequate, so his ego has been shot down.
"I'll be your number one with a bullet."
A reference to the movie High Fidelity. Peter Wentz is known for his movie references, for sure.
"We're going down, down in an earlier round
And Sugar, we're going down swinging"
A reference to Sugar Ray Leonard, the boxer, hence the "earlier round" and the "Sugar". Also, don't quote me, Peter said something like, "they never call anyone "Sugar" in songs anymore, so I figured I'd write a song with it."
"Is this more than you bargained for yet"
Do you think you can handle what you've gotten yourself into?
"Oh don't mind me I'm watching you two from the closet"
She hasn't told anyone about him since she's ashamed of him, she's metaphorically keeping him in her closet, and he knows about the cheating but he can't do anything about it.
"Wishing to be the friction in your jeans
Isn't it messed up how I'm just dying to be him"
He wants to be the one that's having sex with her, he wants to be the other guy because she likes him more than the narrator.
"I'm just a notch in your bedpost"
All it was was a physical relationship to her. -
OK AWESOMEANDY2. You must be retarded or sick in the head or some mess like that! If you think it's a loaded gun complex, you're stupid because if you were smart enough to go look at the lyrics at the top of the page you would see that you were WRONG!!!!
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